She moved 3000 miles away from family to take on the mic at SPIRIT 105.3 in Seattle. And then Covid hit. And then her mom got sick back in North Carolina. Erica Parkerson joins Julie Lyles Carr to talk about what she learned about loving and supporting her extended family from afar, and how God will sometimes use other people to do the job we think is for us.
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Julie Lyles Carr: You’re listening to the AllMomDoes podcast where you’ll find encouragement, information and inspiration for the life you’re living, the kids you’re raising, the romance you’re loving, and the faith you’re growing. I’m your host, Julie Lyles Carr. Let’s jump into this week’s episode.
Today on the AllMomDoes podcast, to know her is to love her, my friend, Erica Parkerson, who, for those of you in the Pacific Northwest, she’s going to be a very familiar voice. She is the dulcet tone that take you through your morning commute and, and your afternoon drive and all the things, because she is on the radio all the time in different scenarios.
Erica, thank you so much for taking time to be on today.
Erica Parkerson: Julie, it’s an honor to drink some coffee with you. Thank you for having me.
Julie Lyles Carr: Absolutely. You know, you’re going to be so proud, Erica. Staying on decaf right now. But, but in, I sign a full disclosure, I’m also adding a little bit of green tea extract to some of my water.
So I’m, there is a little bit of caffeine going on. I feel like I would not be as moral as I should be if I didn’t mention that. But in terms of baby steps, baby steps, but I can decaf. I know that’s not a cry for help. Sometimes people think that I’m trying to send a code. Send the ransom. If she says she’s drinking decaf, something must be up. Erica, I’m so happy to see you. You have had quite the last few months as we all have just trying to navigate a lot of different things, but I want to go back a little bit. You are originally from the east coast, from the Carolinas area. Is that right?
Erica Parkerson: Yes, that’s right.
Julie Lyles Carr: And that’s where your career started and all the things. And then you made a major decision a few years ago. You’re a wife, you’re a mom. And because of your job, your career path, your whole family picked up and moved. And tell me about that decision.
Erica Parkerson: Well, everybody who heard about it from my mom to my closest friends asked me one question. It was one word: Seattle? Nothing else after that. They were in complete shock, but I will tell you, Julie, something you may not know about my story. We almost lost our son, Josh to ulcerative colitis. He went through such a battle. He lost his colon. He is the bravest person I’ve ever known in my entire life. And so our family had been through a very difficult season. And the people at my radio station in South Carolina, they just took me under their wing. They supported me, they loved us through it. But at the end of something like that, there’s something in you that goes, God, can I have a fresh start? And I didn’t even know that my heart was crying out for that, but I needed to get away from all of the places that had caused us so much pain. Right? The stairs that he would walk down when he was ill into our bedroom, I needed away from those stairs. And one day I got a text from Tym my boss here at SPIRIT 105.3, and he said, Hey, why don’t you come out here and work at SPIRIT 105.3? And I said, you’re crazy, but Hey, let’s have a phone chat.
So, we sat, I sat in a parking lot of Publix, a great grocery store on the east coast. And I was looking at my steering wheel and he’s pitching all of these things. And I said Ty, there’s no way I’m moving 3000 miles away from my family. Thank you though. We hung up. I walked into Publix and on the end cap, all Seattle’s best coffee, like a thousand boxes.
I’m like, what’s this about?
Julie Lyles Carr: God loves you. He knows your love language.
Erica Parkerson: It’s all back to coffee. I get home and I say to my husband, so what do you think about us moving to Seattle? He starts Googling real estate in Seattle. Well, Julie, he had worked for Microsoft for 20 years. He went to Seattle all the time. Always wanted to live there. Never thought I would even consider it. So next thing I yell upstairs, hey, Josh, come here for a second, my son, what would you think about moving? You know, somewhere else? He goes not New York, not Florida, not Texas. He starts listing all of these places and he goes, but you know, Washington, Oregon, something like that.
I’d be okay. What?? My daughter comes down and she’s a musician. Yeah. I’d moved to Seattle. And in that moment we all prayed. We held hands as a family and we’re like, God, we give this idea to you. That’s how it happened.
Julie Lyles Carr: Wow. And you know, what’s unusual about the trajectory of that story, I know it’s becoming more common now, but for a lot of us, when we were looking at a relocation in the works for an entire family that often had a whole lot more to do with a husband’s career, in years past. So that’s definitely been my story. I moved all through my childhood and it was my dad’s career. Part of how we ended up in Austin was my husband’s career. Talk to me about the dynamics of when it’s a wife’s career that facilitates that kind of a change in a family. What are some things you notice that, were they smooth and easy? Were they the same thing as you would expect from a relocation for anyone? what were some things that maybe were a little bit different between you and your husband? Because this was your career path that you guys were all making this change for.
Erica Parkerson: It’s crazy. My husband has supported me always. He has always been the one who believed in me before I could even look in the mirror and think about believing in myself. And so he would always say, Erica, I know that you can do this. Whatever it was. Cause I started freelancing for a newspaper. That’s how I got into radio. I was invited to go onto a morning show and talk about a story I’d written.
He was the one who said, yeah, you could write for the newspaper. Yeah. You could talk on the radio. And he always believed in me. So, it was like a no brainer. For him. Yes. This is an opportunity. And we had prayed about opportunities before. Everything that’s ever come to us we have just laid at the feet of Jesus and said, we only want this if you want it for us. Like, could you slam the door for us if this is not for us? And could you just throw it wide open if it is for us? And so, we prayed about it and we both had that unction in our spirits and, he was trying real estate at the time, you know, after that 20 year stint in it, he was done and he was kind of ready to make a change as well.
And, you know, he has been kind of trying to find himself here in Seattle, but recently the most beautiful thing happened for him. He joined a team called support seven. So basically, when the firefighters come and they respond to a tragedy, can you imagine Julie, they’re taking the victims with them, but they’re leaving emotional victims behind.
And so, Will’s role is to come in there and be a comfort alongside the pastor to give refreshments blankets, Teddy bears, whatever it is. And so, he’s kind of finding a purpose here as well. And I’ve always, I told my kids who are grown old enough to vote all that good stuff, God has us on mission.
This is what my husband and me are on this earth while we’re here with. If you’ve given your heart to Jesus, you’re on mission. That doesn’t mean you go to Africa and live in a hut. It just means you go where the Lord calls you to go. So all of us have just been one mind, one heart. Have there been days?
Absolutely. Like we’ve looked at each other and gone, we can’t fly home in a pandemic. Right. What have we done? Right. I’ve never gotten a year without seeing my mom. It broke my heart. My niece and my nephew. I’m an aunt. You know, there have been times we’ve just gone… like I have felt, Julie, I have felt like I wanted to step outside my body. I was so far away and I would look at the map and go, how could I be this far away? In the center of God’s will, has always drawn me back to that peace that anchors me and all of us.
Julie Lyles Carr: Right. Right. I think it’s beautiful that you guys did have such a common agreement that this is what you were supposed to do, because, you know, for some of my listeners out there, Erica, that has not been their story.
They did not see a relocation as something that was great for the family. Is something that they needed to do. My husband and I went through a season where we were off page on a move that we made and ultimately we had to come to a place, and it took tears and a lot of growth and a lot of talking it out and a lot of prayer, but we finally both arrived at the place where we realized that we were both right, and we were both wrong. And it’s interesting in marriage sometimes when you can hit that point, not saying it fixes everything, but a, particularly about a relocation where you are willing to see the good, even if it’s not something that you wanted. Or in a relocation where you’re the one who’s really, really wanting it, but to understand the cost to the, to your spouse or to your kids, what it really is costing them to allow the tension of those two very diverse emotions to exist, that maybe you’re excited for yourself and your career, but also to be sad for what it’s going to cost you or your family. Conversely, to feel fully the loss that’s happening and moving away the change of life that’s going to happen, but to be happy for your partner or for your kid who you’re making that move for them. To somehow allow those emotions to both live at the same time.
Now you mentioned being away from family. That’s one of the tough ones for me, because I grew up, you know, I grew up not living near extended family. And we had a situation for a few years where we were living where my in-laws were and my one of my brothers and his wife, and my husband’s sister and her husband. So, we had extended family for our kids. And then we, you know, we moved again and it just kind of dispersed from there. But you’re so right during the pandemic, when we didn’t have the ability to easily get to one another, or even if we could jump in a car and get there, was that the right choice because of what we were being told and how to handle things.
And you went through a major health event with your mom back on the east coast. You’re on the tippy top point of the west coast… how did you navigate all of that and how did you navigate it with your extended family that was in town with her? And the reason I asked that is this, my brothers and I, we live in three different cities, and we had my mom and my grandmother who were both going through a whole lot there.
So, there’s my brother who’s on the ground dealing with them. And then we’ve got my other brother in one city, myself, and another city, and the two of us who were away from the brother who was on the ground, feeling that guilt, that you’re not in the thick of it with him. Weirdly also feeling the relief
that you’re kind of, not in the hot spot, even though you’re feeling it so dramatically. So how was it for you trying to navigate that? Because again, this is a fairly, you’ve been in Seattle now for how long?
Erica Parkerson: It’s, it’ll be three years in October.
Julie Lyles Carr: So, you know, you were only a couple years, a year and a half into your Seattle residency when all this kicked up and you were having to navigate these new dynamics. So what did you learn in the process of navigating your mom’s major health crisis from so, so many thousands of miles away.
Erica Parkerson: I want to say first it was absolute torture. Yeah. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. There were three different occasions where my dad called me.
I think they were all Saturdays. And they’re like, we might have to say goodbye today over FaceTime. I don’t even know how to process that. I just cried. I, it was horrible, but this is how I made peace. I would ask the Lord, I would say Lord, the Holy Spirit is such a gift. You can be with my mom right now and be holding her hand, and you can be with me and holding my hand, and you can be with my dad and holding his hand. Because for a while, my mom was in the hospital for 70 something days. And for half that time, not even my father could visit her. I didn’t like, how do you process that? My mom can’t breathe. She, she can’t put air in her lungs and nobody can be there to hold her hand and I, to this day, just can’t reconcile that. My brain, I remember I have a dear friend, Heather, who’s a nurse and she just happened to be assigned to my mom’s hospital. And by proxy, she went in there, she went in there and just talked to my mother. And I was like, oh God, you sent an angel. Like you sent an angel. But my mom and I would be on the phone and she would tell me things. And I told her, I was like, you can call me at 3:00 AM it doesn’t, don’t look at the clock.
If you need me, you call me. I can be, you know, how you phone a friend on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? I want it to be that for my mom. And she called me so many times and she would say things like Erica, if I make it through this, I’m going to be more forgiving. And I, I would just be sitting there writing down things she said. Julie, I remember my dad, uh, texting a picture. He, there was a beautiful picture of my mom in their house, and he had laid like a cross over it. And I knew in that moment, I’m like, he thinks she’s going to die. He, how, what am I going to do? I remember my sister saying to me, uh, who has two little kids, are you going to come if mom dies? And I’m like, I don’t know. I was scared to death. How do you get on a plane for five hours in the middle of a pandemic? Right. What if I die? Like, these are the things that are going through my mind. Um, my sister and my father were unbelievable. Uh, they had people bringing them food.
They, you know, they were there for each other. Um, but I felt a sense of helplessness like I’ve never known in my entire life. Uh, but as a team we got through it together. My dad would text three words, keep the faith, keep the faith. My dad’s only been a Christian for like five years. I think he was the strongest out of all of us.
Just keep the faith, keep the faith. And he kept believing. Now he had his moments, but he kept believing. And I guess if you asked me, well, how do you get through that? You put one foot in front of the other and you, you have people around you who you trust, and you pour out your heart. I know Donna, who does traffic here on SPIRIT 105.3, and a million other things, she listened to me blubber. I can’t tell you how many times I came into work before I got on the air. So you get through it that way. Um, my mom’s a miracle, Julie. There was a nurse who came in, a respiratory therapist, one night and he pointed to all the pictures of our family on the wall and he said, you see them?
You see them? You have to fight for them. You’re going to make it. Three weeks later. His name is Heath, he came back, and he said, I didn’t think you were going to make it. He said, but I had to give you some encouragement. And she credits Heath of course, the Lord for the miracle, God used Heath to drive her.
Like, she found a strength in her that she didn’t know she had. And I’m like, okay, Lord, you answered my prayer. You sent the angels. You were, your presence was there. So, I thank God for that.
Julie Lyles Carr: Yeah. You know, I think Erica, for any of us who are doers and who want to fix things and we want to make things better, we somehow often feel, at least in my case that I’m, I am the one responsible for doing that. That I have to fix it. I have to be the person on site. And definitely through the course of the last year and a half. We’ve had to learn that sometimes you’re not going to be the person that God puts on site, whatever that is for. And with all of the changes of, you know, the graduation ceremonies that had to be done in driveways. And in my case, the two weddings that happened during the middle of COVID and the two funerals that we had to have during the middle of COVID, for my mom and my grandmother, you know, that sense of, but I’m supposed to be the fixer. And I did feel like that God kept showing me and resonating within me, I have other people in this army girl, you know. Maybe it’s somebody else’s time to do the thing that you think only you can do for your family or your brothers or your mom or whatever.
So, I love that he came along. I love that your friend Heather was there as just, you know, an absolute testimony to that fact, that God can use a lot of people. Yes. He uses us, but the blessing that other people can be in that we get to see that happen sometimes is pretty incredible.
Erica Parkerson: Julie, I started back to counseling a few months ago and Roger looked at me, my counselor, and he said, you have the Messiah complex. And I was like, Me? I don’t think anything. I’m very insecure…
Julie Lyles Carr: I’ll make us t-shirts I’ll make us t-shirts.
Erica Parkerson: Honey, you can’t, he didn’t say honey, that’s how I talked to myself. He’s like, you can’t fix all these things you just described to me. You, you know, this whole adage of Jesus says, take up your cross. Like not your mom’s cross, and your sister’s cross, and your daughters. Just your cross. And that’s what I’m trying to focus on. Now that like, all this is blown up and things are stabilizing. It’s like, Lord, help me. I don’t need to be your assistant. My friend Katie says that. Jesus doesn’t need an assistant.
Julie Lyles Carr: Yeah. I mean, he doesn’t need us as a personal assistant yet, but you know, I really think I could help, but you’re right. You know, Erica, I I’m wanting to have my sister-in-law on at some point, who was just an amazing individual. And she really oversaw his, my mom’s battle with dementia/Alzheimer’s continued. It was Jill, who was the person who really was there, obviously with my brother also, but Jill just said, I’m going to commit my days to walking this path. And it’s made me think a lot about the family dynamics that happen. Obviously in the case that you experienced with your mom, with your, with your dad and with your sister being the ones there, as I’ve thought about other families, where, whether there’s a pandemic going on or not, the dynamics of extended family and being away from each other, and yet still having to make these incredibly important decisions together, I’m fortunate in that both of my brothers and I and their spouses and my husband, we share a common Christian faith. I think if we didn’t, that would be trickier. And so, I don’t have all the answers for someone experiencing that. But what are you learning both with your mom’s illness, but even just in the general things of the fact that your mom and your sister and your dad are all together, and now you’re out on a different coast…? What are you learning about what family life means in that iteration of family life? Because it is different.
Erica Parkerson: I am learning to listen. I am learning to listen. I remember the recliner, it’s a, it was a pleather, we just got rid of it that was shedding, that I was sitting in when God was like, it’s time for you to go and get on that plane.
And this was months ago when it was finally time for me to go. I knew that my dad was at the end of his rope and my mom was home and not doing well. And Julie, I spent crazy money. I, this is, I will share this because I know that people struggle. I had to ask my father to help a little bit, so I could pay to get on a plane in two days. I like, oh, it was New Year’s Eve.
I got on the plane on New Year’s Eve. And I went because it was time. I knew my dad was at a breaking point. When you know your family and you love them well, you know what, they’re not saying in a text, there’s texting you something, but you also know what they’re not saying. And so, we made it happen.
Here’s the crazy thing. I got to see my mom once and then she needed my dad in the hospital. So, I was there for like days and I got to see her once in the flesh. One time, but guess what? I was there with my dad, and we shared almost every meal and we talked and we watched TV together. And when I got home, I realized, God, didn’t send me for my mom, he sent me for my father. He wanted me because I knew because he told me, and thank God, I was smart enough to humble myself and ask for financial help and say, look, I want to do this. I just, I can’t on the spur of a moment, spend this kind of money. Um, so anyway, that, and I realized you, you have to listen, you have to tune in.
You also just have to have that line of communication open. Right, back and forth. Like I tell them if you need me, you tell me. I’ll be there. Like I will, but it is, it’s that tuning into God. It’s knowing when it’s your turn, when it’s your turn to show love and to be love in the flesh in 3D and when to step back and pray.
You know, send a meal, you know, um, an Uber eats gift card or whatever, and it’s, it’s learning, it’s learning to listen. And I have to say, with the exception of the first time I told my parents that I was moving to Seattle, and I will never forget it, it was a cold cut lunch and my mom was furious and I don’t blame her.
I don’t, she was so upset… that is the only time anybody in my family has ever kind of sulked. From that point on both of my parents Julie, my sister, her husband, everybody, have been in complete support of what God is doing in my family’s life here. When I left my mom last time and I hugged her in her frail little body, she’s so frail right now, she used to be, she said, I know I want you to go back. She said, I want you to know, I want you to go back. I want you to do what God’s called you to do. Julie, if that isn’t the love of a mother, I don’t know what is.
Julie Lyles Carr: Right, right. I love that you point out that sometimes when we have a situation that feels very emergent, or we have a family member who seems to be in a lot of pain, whether that is from a physical ailment or something, they’re going through, I completely resonate with that thought of I’ve got to get to that person, but we often forget the caregiver in that situation or the person immediately surrounding that. It’s so beautiful to me that you realized and came to the revelation of, oh, I’m actually supposed to be here for my dad. This is actually the thing that’s supposed to be happening in spite of what looks so completely urgent right in front of me. And it’s interesting to me because sometimes, and it’s not that we have to cleanly disseminate these two right, but if we’re going to go into a situation where we really want to be of help, don’t you think that we’ve got to do the hard work of excavating what’s really about our own need and what is really about going to help?
Because that was something that we had to really wrestle with the situation that happened with both my grandmother and my mom last fall was I so badly wanted to go for my own needs. But when I really backed up and looked at what was going on in my brother’s family, their concern about if we were to transmit COVID, would I even really be able to go in?
Would I be, you know, all the things, I can look back now and realize, man, my heart was truly, I wanted to go help, but mixed into a lot of the conflict about the decision was about trying to satisfy some of my own needs. Do you find that to be true within your extended family situation, and what’s been going on?
Erica Parkerson: Absolutely. I told you about the one time I went, but I didn’t tell you about the 425 times I need to go, and I need to go now. There was something so fulfilling about what, like the right time for everything. There’s a season. The Bible tells us in a time for an, a purpose for every activity under heaven, right? I, there was something God blessed me. I heard Beth Moore say this morning on a podcast with disobedience comes consequences. With obedience comes blessings. The idea of buying two donuts, the ones with the sprinkles and bringing them to my niece and nephew in the midst of the hell that we were all going through, that was a blessing in the middle. I can’t tell you how many times I cried, and I even stamped my feet emotionally. Like this is so unfair. I should be there. I, this is what I’m good at. I’m good at supporting people. I’m good at sitting in hospital waiting rooms. This is, I don’t get it. And God was just saying, you have got to trust me.
And so, for me overall, it’s this filter of, okay, we all wear filters. We’re moms. We have jobs. We have all these filters, my new filter after everything that’s happened… okay, Lord, I will trust you. This is happening, but okay. I’m going to trust you. This looks crazy, but I’m going to trust, trust you.
Julie Lyles Carr: Yeah. How did you navigate, because you’re on the air every day and I’m in a more public space a lot of times? The podcast is weekly, but you know, in terms of social media and all the things and trying to, how did you navigate going through what you were going through and wanting to be honest and vulnerable with your audience and at the same time, you carry a responsibility to just not depress people every time they get on air? You’re just speaking encouragement and hope and you’re not wanting to fake that, but at the same time, how did you navigate those choppy waters? Because I think for people who are in more public forward, communication challenges, your communication positions, pastors, counselors, whatever to try to navigate that can be really tricky… How did you hit that balance?
Erica Parkerson: My friend April has the saying that I have applied to my life and she’s like, look for the good, even if you need to use a magnifying glass. And so I would every day look for the good. And I would say, you know, my mom is fighting COVID, but you know what the news actually just covered her story. There was a, she was on the good morning. America news, ticker woman in North Carolina goes home after 70 days in the hospital. And so yes, there were days I might say, hey, I would really appreciate your mom, a prayer for my mom over a song or something like that. But I stuck to any fragment of good that was happening. The fact that she called my dad with a list and he’s like, yeah, what do you need? And she said, no, I need you to bring flowers to this nurse, and this nurse. This is my mom. Even she can’t breathe, Julie. Like she’s got her in that, they’ve got her in that prone position on her belly, and she’s thinking, these nurses have been kind to me. I need Will to drop off flowers. These are the things that I would share. So it was always in the context of, Hey, I’m having a hard time, but listen to this. And I learned in a nutshell through going through my son almost dying, and having a radio show to steward, I learned something in hindsight.
And that is when you share the word of God, when you’re encouraging, it’s a boomerang. And you don’t realize it at the time. And it takes the holy spirit to be able to do it. But it’s like all of those words, that don’t return void were going right into my heart. And so that, that’s how you get through it.
Julie Lyles Carr: I love that, Erica. I think that applies in my opinion, to anyone going through anything, whether they have a radio show or not, that importance of not denying the reality, because I’ve known people in the past and maybe I’ve been guilty of it myself, where in wanting to try to control the outcome or in wanting to try to fix it or to not make people feel bad, I would only speak certain things over a situation.
Really not honor the depth of what was going on, not be vulnerable in the moment, but at the same time, if that’s all we’re talking about, even when it’s from a place of wanting to help others, if we’re not infusing it with hope, if we’re not infusing it with encouragement, then really all we’re doing is inviting people into our own pain.
And that’s, that’s not wrong but there comes a point where I do think we bear a responsibility to speak into the hope that we have. So well, how would you encourage someone today who’s saying, look, I don’t have a public platform. I have some deep stuff going on in my life. I am wrestling with some stuff in my life.
How would you encourage them to make sure that they are both being real about what’s happening in their life, but at the same time speaking truth and hope over themselves and over the situation?
Erica Parkerson: Well, the first thing I did when my friend April told me about the magnifying glass was, I went to the dollar tree and bought some. And so I keep a magnifying glass around to remind myself, look for the good. So that’s my number one, but the Psalms, see for me, going to the Psalms and listening, you know, because if you play it out loud or read it, to David, just poured out his heart to the Lord. He was unfiltered and God was cool with that.
God is cool. Like you don’t have to put a filter on when you’re talking to him. That’s number one. But if you need to lift yourself out of the pit, read about somebody who figured out how to do that. Who had a heart to just keep pursuing God when things were going great. When things were horrible, you don’t read those songs, you know, find a piece that’s encouraging and post it on your Instagram and say, hey, I’m having a hard day, but this is helping me, you know?
And when you pull yourself out of the pit, chances are you’re going to pull somebody else out with you. But for me, that was, that was my go-to secret weapon. That and take care of yourself. Be good to yourself. You know, my boss, there were a couple of times I’m like, oh, I’m so embarrassed this happened. He would, he would email me be good to yourself.
Julie Lyles Carr: Yeah. Yeah.
Erica Parkerson: It’s huge. We have to take care of ourselves when we’re going through.
Julie Lyles Carr: Absolutely. It’s interesting you bring up the Psalms because so often when David would just pour out his heart and he is very unfiltered, very raw, questioning, God doesn’t know what’s going on, but so often at the end of that journaling, he will say, but I know who I believe in.
I know that God is good. I know there’s going to be a path through. He really gives us the model for how to wrap up those conversations. And I love that your boss said that to you because it is so important, and you can feel a bit frivolous if you’re going through a really hard time. I’m going to take a pause and do something that brings me joy.
I’m going to take a pause and do something that makes me laugh. And sometimes I think we can feel like maybe, we’re trying to push something away or we’re not honoring what’s going on, but those things are important. I love that you had that reminder. Well, Erica, I just am so thankful that your incredible personality, your hopefulness, your example, is on the airwaves all the time in the Pacific Northwest.
But if you’re not in the Pacific Northwest, you can still just tap into all that Erica magic, all that Erica goodness, by going to SPIRIT1053.com. And where else can listeners find out more about you and see what you’re up to?
Erica Parkerson: Let’s see, you can follow me on Instagram. It’s galbehindthemic. That’s a good place. I share a lot there. I share my heart there. So that’s good. I’m trying to write a book. Maybe one day I’ll be back, and I’ll be talking about the book that God has put on my heart.
Julie Lyles Carr: That would be amazing. That would be amazing. And listener, you can go to the show notes that Rebecca puts together for us every week, all kinds of great links and things there that you can also find out more about Erica, all that she’s up to. Erica Parkerson, I just adore you. Thanks so much for coming on the podcast and I mean, kudos to you for navigating such a tough season, and yet at the same time using it for good. I just love you.
Erica Parkerson: Well, I love you too. Ditto kiddo, and we all need a little JLC glitter in our lives. Love it. Let’s do it again. You’re the best.
Julie Lyles Carr: Check out the show notes for all the links, info, and other goodness from this week’s episode with a big thank you to our content coordinator, Rebecca. I’ve got a request, please go like and leave a review wherever you get your podcasts… It really does make a difference in helping other people find the show.
And I’ll see you next week here at the AllMomDoes podcast.
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