Are you longing for friendships that are fun, deep, and meaningful? Jess Johnston and Amy Weatherly, founders of the 1 million member online community Sister, I Am With You, join Julie Lyles Carr to discuss the expectations that we bring to the topic of friendship that could be holding us back from our best group of pals, when it’s time to move someone out of your closest circle, what to do if that happens to you, and how friendship can now be found in a number of ways.
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Julie Lyles Carr: You’re listening to the AllMomDoes podcast where you’ll find encouragement, information, and inspiration for the life you’re living, the kids you’re raising, the romance you’re loving, and the faith you’re growing. I’m your host, Julie Lyles Carr. Let’s jump into this week’s episode.
Today on the AllMomDoes podcast, Jess Johnston and Amy Weatherly. They’re going to talk about something that is near and dear to my heart, and something that I’ve long been fascinated with. I’ve watched some trends with women through the years that I think makes us an extremely important conversation. And that is on the topic of friendship, Jess and Amy, thanks so much for being with me today.
It’s great to have y’all so tell me where y’all are in the world. I know one of y’all is in Texas, right? Which one of y’all is here with me?
Amy Weatherly: Amy I’m in west Texas.
Julie Lyles Carr: Okay. Where in West Texas are you?
Amy Weatherly: Midland
Julie Lyles Carr: Okay. I went to school in Abilene, so I went to ACU. ACU Wildcats. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, ACU is kind of, um, you know, even though it’s what two and a half hours away, that’s practically next door in west, Texas
Amy Weatherly: Two hours is as close as it gets.
Julie Lyles Carr: That’s right.
Jess Johnston: Well, I’m originally from Montana, but we moved to Southern California a few years.
Julie Lyles Carr: Okay. Where in Southern California are you?
Jess Johnston: We are in Santa Barbara.
Julie Lyles Carr: Oh, well that’s just terrible. I mean, I know what are we going to do to help Jess?
Amy Weatherly: I know. I always tell her. I’m like, Jess, I feel so sorry for you. She’ll be like it’s cold outside. It’s like 68 today. Oh my gosh.
Julie Lyles Carr: So tell me about the origin story of your friendship, because clearly one of you is in Texas. One of you is in California, and yet you have a lot to say on the idea of women and friendship and how that should look. And as I said, at the top of the interview, it’s an, it’s a very important topic to me. My, my friends, the longtime friendships I’ve had are of great importance to me. And yet I often find women’s struggle to really have the kind of friendships they think they should have. So back it up for me. How did you two come into contacts and what does that friendship looks like through the years? .
Amy Weatherly: I stalked Jess a little bit, which I know no way recommend that or endorse that method of friendship. Um, I honestly, we were in a writing group together and there were like how many women were in that writing group, Jess? I mean, there were hundreds, hundreds, but Jess was one that from the get-go, um, Jess has been doing it a little bit longer than I had, and I just admired her. I loved the way she wrote. I loved she was just real and transparent and she wasn’t fluffy or trying to come up with any kind of like, I don’t even know the right word, but like he wasn’t trying to come off as super I’m about to say, like she didn’t try to come off smart.
I mean,
Jess Johnston: it’s true. That’s fair. That’s fair.
Amy Weatherly: She didn’t speak in a way that was unattainable. Let me say that. Love that approach. I think I take a very similar approach and just like, listen, I’m just going to be myself and that’s all I want to do. And anyways, I love the way Jess wrote. So I was a huge fan of hers. So I just sent her a message and I told her so. I slid into her DM’s and I was like, just so you know, I love what you do. I love the way you write. I would love to work with you in some capacity. And then we just became friends from there. It is kind of like dating. So we went from sending Instagram messages. And finally that got to a point where like, Hey, would you like to take this to the phone? Would you call each other on the phone? And then we had our first phone conversation and, um, you don’t quickly turn into talking very regularly. And then, um, the idea for Sister I’m With You was born. And, um, it’s funny, we had never met in person when we started this drawing with you that actually started about, um, we actually met in person about a month after it had already, we’d already been going, but it was just so natural. And like we saw each other for the first time. We were like, Hey, Hey, it’s you okay? Let’s go get some burgers and fries.
Julie Lyles Carr: There you are. And I’m so glad to have you. Yeah, Jess, what did you guys identify as one of the issues, the problem you wanted to solve, when you decided to collaborate and work together on the topic of friendship? What were you seeing that spurred your curiosity when it comes to women and friendships? Because I think a lot of times there’s a cultural. I don’t know, maybe presumption that women have no issues developing friendships. And yet, on the other hand, we also have all of this content, TV shows, movies, et cetera, about the problems with women’s friendships. What were you seeing in the culture that made you an Amy thing? Huh, we might have something to say.
Jess Johnston: Well, I think just from our own transparent conversations about our own struggles with friendships through the years and loneliness, and then realizing that it wasn’t just us and how huge of a thing that was, and our journeys to realize, like when I was really struggling with lonliness,
part, something that kept me even more isolated was the idea that I was the only one. Or that everybody in the world and everybody has friends, except for me. I was born without this special piece that makes it easy to make friends, or I miss out on the class that everybody else got. But the truth is is that that’s not true. Adult friendship is hard. Adult friendship can be scary and awkward. And a lot of times it doesn’t just fall in your lap. Amy and I often talk about, we grew up on romcoms, you know, and, and with romantic comedies, it’s like the guy shows up in your life, like all of a sudden what boom, like magic and then you’re together forever. And I think we kind of expect that with our friendships too. Like, someone’s just show up magically in our life and then boom, it happens, but it actually is rarely like that. And so I think our hearts are really to talk about the hard stuff with friendship and kind of … we want women to know that they’re not the only ones that they’re not alone, that there’s nothing wrong with them. If it’s awkward and hard, it’s awkward and hard for most of us, and to start that conversation.
Julie Lyles Carr: I had definitely noticed this more strongly. I spent a long tenure in women’s ministry and it was interesting. There were people who seem to be pretty effortless and their ability to gather friends around them and make connections and find the moms that they felt like they had some acuity with. And then there were people who really wanted friendship, wanted to connect and really struggled. And it wasn’t something that seemed really simple to exactly put your finger on as to what the issue was. But I do think that sense of expectation is something that’s really interesting. I do think we’ve built romances around the idea of how we think our friendships with others should be.
What are some of the things that the two of you have noticed in talking with women about friendships that are some of the hallmarks of, oh, yeah, this is where it can get really sticky. This is where it can get difficult. Is it that we’re not willing to put ourselves out there? Is it that we’ve been burned in a friendship before? Is it something to do with our own self-esteem? Like, what is this that makes it difficult sometimes for us to find the deep, rich committed kind of friendships that we really want.
Amy Weatherly: I think there are a few things. So I do think our own insecurity is a huge boundary to us. I think it is massive. I think personally, I think that is probably the biggest one that we, um, face and sometimes it’s a silent one. Sometimes you don’t even know that your insecurity, sometimes you don’t know that it’s your, your lack of confidence that is what is getting in the way of you and other people. Um, but you do have to believe in yourself. Confidence is attractive. It is, it attracts people because everybody wants to feel confident.
So if you feel confident and you’re giving that off, people are naturally going to be like, well, I want a little piece of that. I want to feel that way too. Um, and that’s a hard thing because I am extremely not confident. Really, for me, it was my own insecurity and it was almost like a, almost like a desperation. That’s the year I was putting off was just like, just desperation. Just like, please like me. Oh my gosh, please, please like me. I had no idea how to be myself because I wasn’t comfortable with myself. So it made sense that other people weren’t naturally comfortable around me either. I was not comfortable with me. I didn’t know who I was. It was just this constant, like just trying and trying and trying to be enough. And at no point in my life, did I ever sit back and go, no, no, no. That’s not the way you’re supposed to live. So sort of when I transitioned to really go, okay, let’s work on your insecurity. Let’s, let’s figure out who you are and let’s step into that role and let’s learn to be comfortable in, in you.
I did help my friendships a lot. So I do definitely think insecurity is a huge one. And I think sometimes we’ve just been burned in the past and a comment that Jess and I see all the time and it kills us. I mean, it kills us. We see it all the time, is I have only been hurt by friendships. They’re not, there, they’re just not worth it. They’re not worth it. Women are just mean, and it kills us because no, they aren’t. No, they aren’t. Women are amazing and women are wonderful. And for the most part, women are supportive and life-giving. I’m sorry that you’ve had a bad experience. I am so sorry for that, but please do not let that stop you please. Don’t all women are not against each other. We are, most of us are cheering each other on wildly. We just have to find each other and have to figure out how to use our voice, to support each other in a way that makes us all want to be that.
Julie Lyles Carr: Absolutely. Amy and Jess, something that I’ve seen… My dad used to have a phrase and it’s kind of funny. I’ve seen it in other places, but I’m giving my dad the credit for this, but he would talk about if somebody had entered into a bad romance or they’d entered into a bad friendship and it, you could see this pattern over and over, his thing was, well, you got a bad picker. What he meant by that was, who are you aiming for when it comes to your friendships? Definitely have noticed in my work with women, that some of those things that drove us in the third grade about wanting to be next to who we perceive to be the popular girl, ladies, it is still happening in our thirties and forties and fifties. We will target somebody in a group and be like, she’s the popular girl. That’s who I want to be next to. And we haven’t really done a character assessment on, well, okay, she may be popular, but is she the kind of person that I’m going to vibe with, who really is someone that we can be life-giving to each other or not? The second thing that I have seen happen as well, and I do see this a lot in faith communities, it feels like to me, we bring an expectation in faith communities that we should walk in the door to that Bible study, that moms group, that book club, whatever it is, and everyone in the room should immediately become our best friend and they should pursue us and they should come after us. And if they don’t, then we’re like, well, they’re a really stuck up group, or they’re really clicky or whatever. But I’ve heard Craig Rochelle talk before about you can’t have 27,000 best friends. That’s not exactly Craig Rochelle language, but you know, you’re probably going to have 3, 4, 5 primary deep friendships in your life. And this notion that somebody who already is somewhat friendship rich is even going to have bandwidth to maybe bring you alongside. May be a little bit misguided.
So how can we hone Jess, our expectations, about what we’re supposed to bring to the table and to what Amy said, maybe we need to get with a coach. Maybe we need to get with a counselor to work through some self-esteem issues. That’s not really the job of a friend necessarily. They can help them in those areas, but they’re not there to be your counselor and you’re not getting, we’d be thoughtful about the expectations we’re bringing to the table when we are trying to develop stronger and deeper friendships.
Jess Johnston: I think one of the hugest things I know for me personally, and also that I, um, have found a lot in my writing and response, um, from women is the idea that we need to give away the thing that we desire. So, give away the friendship that you’re longing to receive, because that whole idea of walking into a room and somebody else is going to pursue me… What really impacted my life and changed everything was I listened to this sermon, and it was actually about, it was about generosity and it was about whatever area you’re lacking in giving away generously to other people. And it was actually about finances, but, um, It talks about, and every area it can affect every area of your life. And, um, and I realized like the thing that I’m lacking in my life is close friendship. And so it kind of flipped the switch in my mind of instead of waiting around because I really, it was from a very disempowered insecure place I expected that if people wanted to be friends with me, they’d come banging down my door and be like, you, I choose you. Come be my best friends, but it switched in my head. Like, no, I, I can give this away to other people and that’s actually a gift. And other people are in the exact same shoes that I am. All these people that I assume have close friendships, there’s a lot of them that are actually just as lonely as I am, and I can give away this gift of pursuing them and, and inviting them out for coffee, and inviting their family over for dinner. It just completely switched it in my mind and honestly changed my life, um, because when I started do that, I realized just how it, how many women were lonely. And how thankful women were to be pursued in that way.
Julie Lyles Carr: Right. Tell me the difference between being a mentor or being mentored and mentorship. I feel like there’s a slippery slope in there for a lot of us that sometimes we define friendship as somebody who’s going to coach us, be there for us, and again, there should be authenticity. I love the subtitle of your book, I’ll be there, but I’ll be, I’ll be wearing sweat pants, finding unfiltered, real life friendships in this crazy chaotic world. I love that because I want the people who I can be real with and I don’t have to show up in some kind of feigned or crafted or curated image. At the same time, there should be some kind of friendship etiquette, right? I think sometimes we, we lose that. We don’t understand that. And sometimes what we’re really seeking is a mentor, not necessarily a friend. How do we be sure that we are going into pursuing a relationship from the perspective of seeking friendship, and not from the place of what somebody is going to pour into us. And Jess, I feel like you’ve touched on this and the idea of giving away the kind of friendship that you’re wanting to receive. I think that definitely is so key. I love that so much wisdom in that. And also what’s another marker to really help us not veer into a lane to really get clear about our motives for friendship is really at the base of it.
Jess Johnston: Yeah, that’s really good. I don’t know if this answers your question, but I know something for me as in, in my friendships and kind of switching into being more of the pursuer. I know that the seasons of my life that really showed me who my close friends really were, were the seasons, what are I couldn’t. Like the seasons when I was going through postpartum depression or
intense anxiety and all the stuff that I was doing, I couldn’t do it anymore for a season. And the friends that stayed the friends that pursued me back, the, the friends that were still there were the friendships that lasted. And then the ones where it was primarily, I don’t wouldn’t say mentoring, but I would say like primarily me holding all the pieces together and pouring into their life, which was worth it, I mean, generosity and loving people is always worth it. Like it does not always to get something in return, you know, but those, those kinds of friendships faded away in those seasons. And it’s the ones that stayed that really were like, these are friend friendship.
Julie Lyles Carr: Right. Amy, help unpack for us, that place, that is the friendships that are there and they’re social and they’re fun, and they’re all the things that’s great. But the friendships that maybe we need to do an audit on, because if it is true that we can only maintain a certain number of really close friendships at a time, and I do think that our social media world has, has turned our understanding on a lot of this, right? Because we have all these people that we know online and we call them friends. So we have this very, very broad understanding of this very little word, friend, how do we audit and make sure that the people were holding close to Jess’s point about those friendships that stick, those friendships, that fade, how do we do that audit to understand who’s healthy in our world for us and who we should invest, in terms of those powerful, intimate friendships, and those that may be, we can love and we can help serve, and we can appreciate them, but maybe we need to keep them a little bit more on the periphery, because that really would be what is most healthy?
I feel like a lot of times, particularly in Christian circles, Like I said earlier, we feel like everybody has to be our best friend, or all, you know, 54 people in our small group, we’re supposed to be super tight with. And the practicality of that and the application of that, and the ability to do that is really, there’s some limitations there. So how do we. Kindly gently without judgment, but with a good eye toward what the purpose is in some of our, these sweatpant friends, how do we determine who we should be holding close and who maybe we need to go, hmm, that might be somebody that I need to just hold it a little bit more distance?
Amy Weatherly: I mean, I feel like that is going to be different for everyone in a sense, because what I need is probably different than what Jess needs in a friendship. And that’s probably a little bit different than what you need in the friendship. So first I would assess myself and go, okay, what am I, what do I really need in a friend? What is really, really true and valuable and kind of like, I’m like, where’s the hard line here that I, like, I can’t be, um, I’m going to have a hard time with someone who can’t give grace. I’m going to have a hard time with someone who can’t laugh a lot. Like I need positivity. I need to have some fun, but I also need some depth. Um, so I would start assessing like, what are the things I’m really looking for in a friend? And I would kind of start from that. And, um, but it is just like you’re saying, like I lived my whole life feeling horrible if I couldn’t be best friends with someone that I wasn’t loving them well, and that meant that I wasn’t loving Jesus well, and that meant that I wasn’t a good Christian. And the older that I got, I just realized how untrue that is. And I do actually talk about this in the book. It’s called Dunbar’s theory. And it’s basically just saying, like, you are limited in your time. You are limited in your energy. It doesn’t matter how wonderful, loving kind of a person you are. You are, you are limited in those ways. And so your circle can only be so big. Um, and it is about five really big, strong, everyday, true friendships that we are, that we can hold on to. It’s about five. And then outside of that close friends, you’re going to have about 15. And then good friends, like people, you know, the numbers about 150, which is probably about the number of people like on your Christmas card list.
Right. And so just remembering those five, who is getting your energy, who’s getting the very, very best of you. Who are you feeding? Because I want to feed the people who, um, are feeding me in return and there’s kind of a reciprocal thing going on, like this natural flow and a back and forth. If I am with somebody all the time, not all the time, but if, when I’m with that person, if I feel drained, if I feel drained on a regular basis… now, sometimes even your best friends are going to go through seasons where you do have to carry them, and that’s going to be hard and that’s, that’s hard, but you do it.
Um, but it’s more like what is on that, what happens on the regular? What happens if they are consistently every time that you’re with them, you’re, you’re drained. You feel like a, a less, a water down version of yourself. You feel like you can’t speak freely. Um, if you feel like you have to put on your fancy pants to be with them, they’re probably somebody that maybe don’t deserve in that top five space. What kind of energy is flowing between y’all? What kind of life is life being given in that relationship? Or is life being drained out?
Julie Lyles Carr: I think that that’s a very fair thing. And it’s something that I don’t think we’re often willing to talk about in faith circles, which is interesting because we do have examples in scripture of people who were on mission, they shared a common value system, they had done work together, they seem to be on page, but when you look at the story of Paul and Barnabas, they ended up having to go their separate ways. And they were able to bless each, they were pretty well, Paul, you know, he’s pretty honest about a lot of stuff. It’s pretty blunt about the fracture in that friendship.
But the interesting thing is at least in terms of gospel math, it allowed the news of Jesus Christ to be spread twice as fast when their friendship did part, because that sent Barnabas in one direction, Paul and another, and they were able to cover more territory. But it is interesting that it’s something that we almost feel shouldn’t be part of a Christian experience or should it be part of how we work with our friendships? You guys have done some writing. Jess, on the other side of that, is when you’re the friend who feels like you’ve poured into a friendship, and now this person’s pulling away from you. And I’ve had it happen several times, there may be somebody listening who’s experienced this where, you’re left going, okay, I’m the one texting and calling and asking to go to lunch. And there’s always a reason why and a reason not. And there does come this dawning moment where you realize, oh, I think I got moved to the, from the circle of five to the circle of 15 or just to the outer periphery of the Christmas card areas.
So just how do we do that with grace when somebody is saying, or indicating, or sending signals that we’ve moved in that position from them and how do we give the grace to say, you know what? That’s okay. We can have seasons for certain friendships that meet needs, that are close to, and they’re not going to end up being lifetime friendships, and that doesn’t mean anybody did anything wrong. And then you have those people who are lifers. How do we walk in that posture of grace when somebody indicates to us, you know what, you’re a great gal, but we may not be lifers together?
Jess Johnston: Oh, man. You know, I just would say that it’s a con for me, it’s a constant process of letting go and not being able to control the outcome of our friendships, which is, is difficult.
Right? It’s just difficult because anything that can, has potential to hurt you, uh, desire to control it and make it safe that it’s, it’s not like sometimes, sometimes you’re going to be hurt and sometimes, yeah, friendships are just for a season. So for me, it’s just a constant process. A constant thing of letting go, like maybe this friendship is just for a season and that’s okay. And then I have this other friendship that is a lifelong friendship, and I’m so grateful for that. Every friendship is not going to look like that. And that’s okay. That’s okay. And just releasing it to God basically, because I can’t, there’s nothing else I can do with that. And I don’t want to, I don’t want that to taint the way I love the next person. And I also think that when somebody moves on from your life after a season, it makes room for someone else you may not have connected with after. And there’s just so many amazing people to connect with. So it’s also just like an openness with God of being like, okay, God, who do you have? Who are you bringing into my life next? Who do you want me to connect with? Right. And that just opens up a ton of possibility.
Julie Lyles Carr: Absolutely. And y’all have done an incredible job of opening up possibilities for friendship for women. You have a platform called Sister I Am With You, which is an online community for friendship. And part of this conversation is interesting to me,
I have live short periods of time, two of the women who are two of my very dearest, very best friends, the ones you can call at two in the morning, we only got to live in the same place for just a short amount of time. So, one of them was way back in the day in another town in Texas, and we got to have just maybe about a year, even if that long before we each went different directions. The other one was someone that we crossed paths for maybe two years in Oklahoma. Both of them are women that to this day, I feel I have incredibly strong friendships with some of my very deepest friendships. I only get to see them, uh, you know, Once twice, maybe three times a year, depending on how it all works out and everybody’s schedules and kids and all the things.
I also have my beloved running partner, three doors down, my friend, Jess. And so we have that constant rotation of who actually has the furniture mover, sliders at their house. Like we have shared custody of, you know, tools and appliances, things like that. The thing that is interesting to me is I feel sometimes there is an attempt in some ways to invalidate those friendships that are long distance friendships. Those friendships, that it is the phone call or the text stream, but you’re not seeing each other and you’re not in each other’s lives as much, in terms of the daily. You guys have created something that allows people to create friendships across the web, and what’s fascinating, I’m sure for y’all and I would love to hear about what this experience has been like during the pandemic, is more than ever before, you know, even though my friend, Jess is three doors down, we definitely have had seasons during the pandemic where we’re having to avoid each other. We are back to a more digital friendship, you know, because we can’t be in each other’s physical presence. How do we honor and validate those friendships that take place on the internet? How can we, as adults find friendships in that way? Not saying that’s the only way, but understanding it’s a valid way. And what do those friendships look like practically in terms of how they’re played out? So Jess and Amy, how does your friendship play out across the internet in this way? So speak to all of that topic for us, because again, I think there is a, sometimes we bring a definition to the table that only allows for a certain type of friendship and we meet every day at this time or we, you know, whatever when instead, friendship’s changing.
Jess Johnston: Yeah. I think intentionality with the people that you value and that you’re choosing were, this is my close friend. Like I’ve chosen that with Amy. Amy is my close friend, so I’m going to be intentional, even though I can’t drop by her house anytime, but intentional with pursuing and making time to talk, and, and taking trips to see each other. What would you say, Amy?
Amy Weatherly: Yeah, I would say, I mean, you do have to be very intentional of saying, okay, this is the time. Um, like Jess and I just normally calls me when she’s running, and it’s almost become like a habit. This is going to be, she’s running my friend, Mary… yeah, the out of breath and you know, that, that’s what she’s doing and I’m going to feel guilty cause I’m sitting on my couch eating potato chips. But, um, so if you can almost make a habit out of it, but it is very intentional. Um, which all of friendship is. All of friendship has to be intentional and you have to actively pursue it.
You have to actively feed it, if you want it to grow. But that’s what you, you just kind of can pick a few and, and the… I mean, technology, right? Like it’s such a double-edged sword because there’s plenty about it that I hate, but man. I loved that I got to connect with Jess. I love that we’ve got community. I love that. I’ve gotten to have friends all over the United States. I love that. And what a cool thing. Cause it is a totally different friendship where, you know, I couldn’t tell you Jess’s kids favorite food. Where my best friend, I can tell you what our kids like to eat. And I can tell you all of that. I don’t know Jess’s kids’ favorite food, but there are certain things that Jess and I can talk about more freely and openly because you know, we’re not in the same town, so there’s no like accidental gossip. There is accidental, talking bad about people. We don’t even know the same. Right. And I love that about our friendship. It keeps it very pure, very pure and very, just honest and real. So it’s just the stuff that we talk about is completely different than the stuff that I sit around and talk with, like my friend who lives down the street. Right, but they’re both life giving in different ways.
Julie Lyles Carr: Amy, you touched on something that I think is really important too, is, you know, when my oldest kids were younger, I was able to have more, drop-in kind of friendships. I knew some of my friends’ schedules. I knew if they worked part time, when they would be home. We had certain days that nobody made it official, but you know, everybody went to Leah’s house on Tuesday afternoon, the kids play day. Like, you know, we had that kind of thing. And as your kids get older, as your schedule may get more complicated, as your work responsibilities may change, depending on the age of your kids, there’s a season you’re at in your career, or whatever, to give each other, the grace that that intentionality can remain and actually become even more important in some ways. It’s wild to me, as busy as my life seemed when my oldest kids were young, and I know we have a lot of listeners who have a little bitty kids at home right now, and your life is legit, crazy busy, but it remains extremely busy, and in some ways requires even more scheduling and more intentionality as your kids get older. As you’re dealing with school schedules, as you’re dealing with extracurricular activities, as you may be pursuing some work that you had put aside for a while, when your kids were younger… That key word of intentionality, even though it can seem counterintuitive to friendship, is so important.
What a delight to get to talk with both of you today, Amy and Jess. The online community is Sister I’m With You. I’ll have Rebecca put that in the show notes so people can check it out. You’ve got your new book, your first book, congratulations. I’ll be there, but I’ll be wearing sweatpants, finding unfiltered real life in this crazy chaotic world. Jess, Amy, where can people find out more about you? Do you like to interact on the socials? Where do you like to quote unquote, make new friends, new internet friends to meeting people?
Amy Weatherly: Facebook and Instagram are kind of our core. We haven’t ventured out into the TicToc world yet.
Julie Lyles Carr: Um, well, when you do venture out to the Tik TOK, I want you to send me the dance. I want to see it. I want to see the debut dance that goes with the tick-tock debuts.
Amy Weatherly: I have a hard time bringing myself to do it. That’s, so the people a little bit younger. Um, but yeah, Facebook and Instagram.
Jess Johnston: Sister I Am With You, and then we have our own pages as well. Amy Weatherly and Jess Johnston. We’re on Sister I Am With You a lot. We love that space.
Amy Weatherly: It’s a really fun, really special space. It is probably the most positive space on social media. Like it’s so rare that we get a negative comment at all, with the million followers. It’s unbelievable. It is a beautiful space. ,
Julie Lyles Carr: Right. That’s a good… check it out. It sounds like a great place to be in a great place to learn more about friendship, a great place to perhaps make a friendship that you’ve been seeking. Jess and Amy, thank you so much for all your insights.
Amy Weatherly: Thank you.
Jess Johnston: Thank you.
Julie Lyles Carr: Check out the show notes for all the links, info, and other goodness from this week’s episode, with a big thank you to our content coordinator, Rebecca. I’ve got a request, please go like, and leave a review wherever you get your podcasts. It really does make a difference in helping other people find the show. And I’ll see you next week here at the AllMomDoes podcast.
